Do lingerie modeling places offer services to the customer or is it generally a watch&jack operation only? The only one I've ever been to made it quite clear that I was to keep my distance, despite my giving her a LOT of money. Does this basically vary from girl to girl? Might I have better luck going back to the same girl again? She did seem to like me well enough and encouraged me to come back. She particularly liked that I remembered her name and we bullshitted about her job and found out we were practically neighbors (didn't get her exact address, darn!) and stuff. It seems that there really is very little difference between the lingerie place and a massage parlor, at least in terms of getting you alone with a girl. But from my limited experiences and the postings here, the lingerie services seem to be hands- off as a general rule-of-thumb. What are your experiences? I don't use these services often at all and would like to save the cash, so I'd like to have more realistic expectations when I go into these things. Thanks. It varies from city to city, but generally lingerie modeling tends to be no touch, while massage parlors are often just incall brothels. Sometimes, a lingerie studio will also offer "light-touch body rubs", "relaxation rubdowns" or some other service that indicates contact. This may mean that local ordinances prohibit use of the term "massage" for anything but genuine therapeutic massage, and their "rub" will likely be sexual. As for the session you describe, my foremost advice is to ALWAYS tell the girl what services you want before offering a large tip. If heavy contact or sex is available, she certainly won't be shocked. If it isn't, at least you'll know and can tip accordingly. If you sense that she might be more open to it after you've established some rapport, you might start with a minimal tip. Then, once things get underway, talk about what you can get for more. And don't worry about getting nabbed in a police sting or anything. Be direct and specific. I've never heard of a lady cop working undercover in a massage parlor or modeling studio. I'm dubious about your chances with this girl on a return visit. It's good that you remembered her name and had a good talk. On the other hand, she might have thought your big tip was just an inducement for her to be extra sociable. I'm not surprised that she encouraged you to come back. Big tippers who are friendly and undemanding are usually popular at these places.